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have thought that gun control would be such a central part of the debate in president obama's second term? picking up on that, how much of what actually gets done is just sort of the circumstances that occur, the events and crises that draw our attention and how much is presidential skill or the political set of facts in terms of who controls the senate and congress. what is really driving our policy? >> it has been a combination of all those things. that's what's interesting. if you look at smart presidents like lyndon baines johnson became masterful manipulators of the political process to pass legislation including civil rights law that anyone thought was possible. and i think no one would have thought it was even possible to discuss gun control legislation and immigration at the same time at the beginning of barack obama's first term. and yet circumstances changed. in the immigration law, what is driving all this is clearly the poll numbers. that's all that is behind this whole gang of 8 legislative effort. so i think a new sort of deal of the cards, if you will. a new seventh ci
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